Beyond the Obvious – Episode with Paul Ross


This episode is with Paul Ross, the founder of the Citizens Dividend Organization, which is a not-for-profit organization with the primary purpose of advocating for the introduction of a Universal Basic Income (UBI) policy here in Australia.

I’ve followed the UBI conversation around the world over recent times, particularly Andrew Yang’s contribution during the democratic primaries in the US. Paul has some significant value to add in this debate. He has thought broadly and deeply about the subject, both from a social science perspective and an economic perspective. Whilst I’ve been curious about a UBI, I’ve also been skeptical, but Paul’s logic and reasoning has most certainly shifted my thinking.

When listening to this episode, I encourage you to lay down any political ideology you may have for a moment and listen to Paul’s arguments. You may just find yourself as curious about it as me. I hope you enjoy.

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